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IHC6 Results.
Quite a well-subscribed comp. We had just over 20 entries.
One was disqualified because it wasn't taken this week - try again Wally.
Three then went because of bits of sky being blown out. This included Margaret's lovely willow which reminded me of J R R Tolkein's Old Man Willow.
Neil and Anne went because of the straightening.
I know that I invited you, when I set the subject, to think outside the box, and four of you did. Digitaljohn's was the best of these. Mention must be made to pastaflora - well done for your entry, especially as you used an F31fd - let's have more of these on IHC.
Next to go was a bunch of you who had taken their pictures with a non-Fuji camera. There is nothing wrong with this - it is allowed. However, Mr Fuji doesn't publish any exif of 'other' cameras, which made looking at their entries difficult. I must mention Barry, who was wandering around (in your dressing gown?) at 4am moving rubbish to take his night picture. However, not all non-Fuji pictures were rejected at this stage.
I don't know if I am enjoying this. I'm having to reject pics from my IHC friends.
We are now left with eight excellent shots, and the judging gets harder .... Any of them could have been in the top three.
Mazzy's Poplar was popular.
Bevra's Mighty Oak was up to her usual high standard.
Derek's Standing the Shade of Time showed good contrast against the light.
Julie's Apple Tree was well-nigh perfect, there was something jolly and happy about her picture that contrasted with Russ's Dead Tree, cold and severe against a grey sky - but that sky is also very good. Russ has also got iso down at 64 which shows something ...
Fuji cameras rarely choose iso 64 on auto setting. This means that Russ was in some sort of manual mode and choosing what he wanted his camera to do. Nice one, Russ.
Angie's photograph fascinated me. I wanted to know more. Her tabs told us it was taken with her Sony Alpha - but what lens, what ISO? Angie has got the rule of three with that lollipop tree in horizontal and vertical dimensions - everything is nicely in balance. Lots of people wanted it cropped but I found an interesting discordance in the picture. It is a very good composition. Angie gets third.
Christine's IHC6 Single Tree is similar to Bevra's but better proportioned. Have a look at it BIG and you will see that she has set her camera up to do a very good focus job on the tree only. It stands out very well. I don't think it should be cropped, and the sky is very good. Christine gets second.
Stuart Roebuck's IHC Tree is superb. It's perfect. I could imagine a Building Society wanting this for its' logo. The sky isn't blown and the foreground dark shadow balances it perfectly. I was pleased to see that you took it with a 5600 - a reliable chunky camera that does as it's told (albeit with a tiny screen). Down at ISO 64 as well... this means something, Stuart. It means you are an award-winning photographer - your award is next week because you are the winner. Congratulations to you, Christine and Angie.
Over to you, Stuart.


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Thnaks Andrew - If I'd known you wanted the exif I would have given it to you - always available - but a good choice with Stuart - he does take a great photo!!
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Congratulations to Stuart Christine and Angie. All very well deserved results.
However, Andrew I have to say that to exclude pictures on the grounds that they have not been taken with fuji cameras and then to attempt to justify this with the comment "Mr Fuji doesn't publish any exif of 'other' cameras, which made looking at their entries difficult." is a disgrace. I have never cheated at anything in my life, and for your information if I so much as get a speeding ticket I would forfeit my employment.
If this is to be the norm in the IHC then I will not be entering any more. If I chose not to use my Fuji camera for any picture that is my business alone. I have included the exif code for my entry so it can be checked. If this is not enough then the same picture is posted on my flickr page under bartman6.
Nikon D90Exposure:0.02 sec (1/50)Aperture:f/22.0Focal Length:18 mmExposure:0.00ISO Speed:200Exposure Bias:0 EVFlash:No Flash
File Size:2.9 MBFile Type:JPEGMIME Type:image/jpegImage Width:1781Image Height:3141Encoding Process:Baseline DCT, Huffman codingBits Per Sample:8Color Components:3X-Resolution:240 dpiY-Resolution:240 dpiSoftware:Ver.1.00Date and Time (Modified):2009:08:14 17:15:58Copyright:(C)Brian Simpson 2009Exposure Program:Aperture-priority AEDate and Time (Original):2009:08:13 13:44:19.00+01:00Date and Time (Digitized):2009:08:13 13:44:19Max Aperture Value:3.5Metering Mode:Multi-segmentLight Source:CloudySub Sec Time Original:00Sub Sec Time Digitized:00Sensing Method:One-chip color areaCFAPattern:[Green,Blue][Red,Green]Custom Rendered:NormalExposure Mode:AutoWhite Balance:ManualDigital Zoom Ratio:1Focal Length In35mm Format:27 mmScene Capture Type:StandardGain Control:NoneContrast:NormalSaturation:NormalSharpness:NormalSubject Distance Range:UnknownKeywords:churches kinver envilleBy-line:Brian SimpsonCopyright Notice:�Brian Simpson 2009
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Congratulations to Stuart,Christine & Angie. Thanks to Andrew for the judging, not an easy task, have to agree with your choice though Stuart's shot is superb.
Some great shots this week well done everyone. whats next Stuart?
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Thee worthy winners, but I agree with Brian , I can supply Exif Data for my shot , and the exif that Fuji does supply does not show the date taken, and from the previous site I found many cheats , I can't do that on this site as yet ,
It's not sour grapes , I used a canon eos 1000d and when I saw the moon above the tree I thought perfect , but I did not give it enough exposure so I don't deserve to win
Can we revise the rules then , the exif is irrelevant to me unless it shows that all important date when the shot was taken, may be we should get the winning three to post the original on flickr
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Oh Brian, I apologise if I have offended you. In no way do I think you have cheated. The point I was trying to make is that only Fuji cameras get their little bits of exif in the gallery, pics that come in from other cameras don't. That's not fair.
Andrew
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Andrew as Barry rightly pointed out for the IHC the only information in the exif that matters is the date and time the picture was taken. The fuji exif does not show this either on this site so how is it unfair.
BrianS http://www.flickr.com/photos/bartman6/
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Quite right Barry.
"That all important date when the shot was taken" .
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must admit I'm inclined to agree... that to state you have excluded pictures from your judging because you can't see exif data is asking for trouble. As others have said, the only part of the exif data that is important is the date the image was taken.... How the shot was taken (ISO, aperture, Focal length) may be interesting... but is irrelevant when it comes to deciding if you like a picture.
I think you have picked the deserved winner.... as Stuart's Photo was Superb.... but perhaps you ought to keep your methodology to yourself in future.
Better out than in... better up than down!
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Yes and for now we must go on trust , I see little point taking part if I were to cheat, Last weeks I did not see one ice cream van , so I did not enter , but i have stock images that would have suited that task
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I'm looking for a way in to the original data.... but haven't found one yet.... Can Mr fuji not oblige?
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I found it a little puzzling too Andrew as there are many inconsitencies. The Exif from my Fuji camera is not shown on this site. This is because I frequently use PhotoImpact for cropping and straightening as it is so easy and very acurate, but it strips the exif from a photo - so I would be surprised if any shots of mine showed the exif data.
Also you excluded photos which weren't taken with a Fuji camera and yet you included mine - which was taken with a Sony.
In fact what others have said is correct - it really doesn't matter what the technicalities were in achieveing the task - the exif may be interesting but is irrelevant - the photo submitted should be judged on the quality of that photo - composition, focus, lighting, and whether it fulfilled the task. I think you chose the right photo as a winner but perhaps your methods were not quite the same as others. And I think that is where it is causing a problem in revealing your thinking processes.
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Georgie if you go to 'My Computer' open the drive your photos are on, and find the photo, hilghlight the photo and then right click on it. At the bottom of the menu which will appear is 'Properties'. Click on this and a box will open at the top there will be two tabs, one is General and the other Summary Click on Summary and halway down the page is a button 'Advanced' Click on this and the exif will be there.
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Inconsistencies? Yes probably. But every judge will be different that's it's why it's different!
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Angie... i meant the exif data on the myfuji site images.... i'm sure it's there somewhere... like we used to be able to on the old site....
I'm sad and geeky enough to know where my own exif data is.... even at the ripe old age of 4$ ....and yes that is deliberately mistyped!
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Well done Andrew and your judging is well explained. It was a very popular subject this week and with so many entries to consider I think you've done an excellent job. Congratulations to the winners.
I've just added my tree again, straightened and without the figure. Is this an improvement?
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Oh my goodness!! Thank you SO much!!! You have made my day!! Thank you for your lovely comments. Congratulations Stuart and Angie- great shots- and to everyone else, I loved looking at your photos.
Chris.
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Congratulations to the winners, and thanks for your task and judging, Andrew.
I agree very much about Stuart's shot, but have to agree with the other comments made about Fuji cameras and exif data etc. By the way, I was a bit unsure about Fuji camera's rarely picking ISO 64 on auto, and have looked back at a good number of pictures I have taken this summer, using auto and portrait mode on on bright sunny days and on cloudy days have have found that it regularly picks 64. Maybe that's just my camera, (S1000fd) but I thought I should point it out.
Stuart - looking forward to next week's task!
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It's probably best to skirt around the whys and wherefores of your rejections, it only seems to provoke people. What is important are the finalists.
Looking forward to next IHC (hope I can join in this time).
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No-one has been able to access it so far Georgie - think they have done things very differently this time. I know Barry had a bit of software which accessed it but even that is not working here.
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Congratulations to Stuart for a well deserved win.
Mine didn`t have the exif info because i resized it for quicker upload because they are resized anyway by fuji when uploaded i will have to remember next time not to resize here is the original with the exif data
http://www.myfinepix.co.uk/gallery/889/25890
YOU CAN NOT SAY IT ISN`T A FUJI BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXIF
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Congratulations to the winners and thanks to Andrew for the judging and for being brave enough to lay out the judging process. As for the argybargy about the EXIF data, I think its commendable that Andrew went to so much trouble to take into account everything he could think of, including what kind of camera was used, and whether it was on auto or manual and so on. With hindsight, it was a mistake, but surely not so serious that he should be strung up?
I posted a request some time ago that MyFinePix should show the date the pictures was taken because I foresaw that it might cause some dissension at some point, but my request has not been actioned.
Graham Dicker
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Were Not stringing Andrew up , I just say if only fuji camera's are allowed then say so. I would never have took that shot with my 5600 too much noise would have crept in.
So is it fuji camera's only if so let the person who set's the task say so, I feel like I wasted my time with that shot
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Sorry, just seen results. Had a house full yesterday and a few too mant sherberts!!!
Well done Andrew, you had the hardest job!
I will have a think and post next theme asap.
Regards
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Congratulations to the winners - I really liked Stuart's shot, and as Andrew said (but regardless of the rules applied) I think it's the best of the bunch by far. I'm personally very pleased with my mention, and very glad that I got my camera back in use (see this if you don't know what I mean but want to: http://www.myfinepix.co.uk/forum/4/20017).
Having said that, I'm quite surprised how seriously some people take this. Reading Andrew's explanations, I didn't read any accusations of cheating, yet people feel accused. Being a Fuji site, I kind of took it for granted that we're here to compare pictures taken with Fujifilm cameras first, and there are plenty of sites and groups where the camera make doesn't matter - maybe the competitive ones could post on those as well. Yes, maybe if we knew more details of the judging process in advance, some of us would have entered a different picture, but let's not lose our sense of proportion: it's a fun thing to do, giving us something different to think about during the week (personally I looked at trees even more than usual, if that was possible for a non-tree surgeon person!). There will be other challenges in the future, and I'm sure we'll all do our best (but inevitably, some will be more successful than others).
Speaking from a personal perspective, I don't take pictures when I'm not inclined to, if the subject doesn't move me to. (Flame suit on) If I felt I was wasting my time, I wouldn't even carry my camera, let alone take it out of the case to take a picture. But if I enjoy the moment and want to capture it, I'll do it. If it happens to fit a theme and the rules and I have time, I'll post it. I look at those challenges as extra inspiration, and my thanks go to the whole group for this.
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There are longstanding rules for the IHC's Rodica. This IHC is to develop your photographic skills and there has always been a 'rule' that any camera can be used. However, sometimes the 'history' of an event can get in the way. I certainly wasn't trying to 'string' Andrew up - but some of his comments were inconsistent and not within the 'rules'. If there is to be a rule change then it should be discussed. Some software strips exif, some cameras do not have interchangeable lenses, others do not have much choice in the way a photo is taken. For instance a DOF task would have point and shoot folk tearing their hair out. This must be taken into consideration - the type of camera used - but not the way the photo was taken.
The rules for both IHC's are set out here - http://www.myfinepix.co.uk/forum/1590/19350 - they should be posted in the discussion thread at the beginning of each task - that enables folk to read them and to discuss any problems/queries they have.
The IHC's have always been a little more rigorous in terms of what is/is not allowed then the Fuji competition. But then we have very different purposes. The Fuji comp is aimed at selling cameras, the IHC's are to develop your skills. And skills can only be developed with an understanding of the camera that is being used.
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I too was not trying to "String" Andrew up. As Angie says IHC rules have always been different... and I find it a great way to learn and find out what my camera can and cannot do... regardless of if i choose to use my S8000fd (fuji) or my new Pentax. My five year old son will join in, when the subject inspires him, with his fully auto A800....
I did not expect to win this week.... but do feel the point needs to be made.... which it has now, that IHC rules do NOT stipulate that a fuji camera must be used and exif data does not have to be shown.
I for one felt that i was being treated like some naughty school girl and with Andrews description of why he had eliminated those entries, felt like my entry had been disqualified, rather than being eliminated fairly.
Better out than in... better up than down!
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well done to the three worthy winners, and also to andrew who had a very hard task picking the winners, a very enjoyable IHC and well done to all who took part,
smile its lights your face up
Russ
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I can't understand the fuss. We enter a weekly "competition" by choice, either for fun or to learn what kind of shots we can take with our cameras. My Fuji camera is an automatic and if that means I'll never win then I'm quite happy about that. We all have different cameras, skills and preferences. Someone wins/is chosen to set the next task. Everyone will set about choosing the next "winner" in their own individual style. I think Andrew is to be commmended on his work on this task. How many judges would bother to look at the data? Don't let us start arguing about the "winners" or the why and wherefore. I am sure Andrew meant no offence to anyone and will be upset at all this fuss.
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Andrew, I forgot to say that the little blob on my photo is actually, not a UFO as I thought at first, but a street lamp! I did see a UFO way back in the 60's and nothing has ever convinced me otherwise.
PS Did you really think that was more interesting than my tree? I'm devastated,(not!)
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I've just been to look at your tree Anne - couldn't see it - but in the process discovered that you have 49 photos in your gallery - so this means that the total number we are allowed before we are stopped from adding has increased. This is very good news andmeans that the 6 or so i deleted last night I needn't have done.!! Thanks for the info Fuji (Not).
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